When I was getting my dissertation topic approved, my director, the Hobbit, told me quite frankly that the only reason he was backing the project, which was a study of the constructions of martial masculinity in the 12 Century Renaissance, was that I was a woman. In other words, that he would not have backed, and the committee would have shot down, a man proposing studying masculinity.
All. Of. This.
I cannot believe that people are getting angry over a female character having boobs, and I cannot believe they’re deciding if it’s acceptable what kind of boobs she has.
I debated responding to this, but decided, eh, why not.
First of all: many people did complain about those characters you listed. There was backlash on a number of them. The most recent was Elita-One’s card from the TF Legends game. They changed it, but nnnnot much improvement, imho.
This? It caused an uproar, and rightfully so.
So, yeah, nobody is singling Windblade out, because this has been an ongoing issue for some time now.
Secondly, it feels like this post is saying “women have boobs and if you can’t appreciate them on robots, then you’ve got some internalized misogyny.”
Now, let me explain why I am a bit miffed by Windblade’s breast update, aside from the fact it was not necessary. Windblade’s breasts look too organic—this is not an organic or mammalian species. Simply put, breasts exist as part of the reproduction system. Robots do not reproduce like organics and mammals. There is no need to make them so prominent and obvious, when you have the following to work with.
Breastplates are perfectly fine, and can be pulled off without looking so awkward. Let’s take a look at G1 Arcee here:
She has a breastplate that is not only curvy without being over-the-top, but it works because it’s part of her alt mode.
Then you have the ladies from TFA, whose breastplates also work the same as G1 Arcee’s.
And, yes, I can see how it is annoying that most of the mainstream TF females are all curvy and have full lips. I am all for feminine robots, and welcome all shapes and sizes, but there is a line that needs to be drawn.
The OP of the one post complaining about Windblade’s breasts is not necessarily complaining about breasts (though don’t quote me on this), but the needless change to her chest. Why did Windblade’s chest go from something that worked into two obvious organic-esque shaped breasts? I thought, well, they need to show her fuselage, and the fuselage goes right down the middle of the torso in most cases.
Problem is: you can’t really tell there’s a fuselage there. I honestly kind of can’t see how Windblade transforms, either, but that’s just me. EDIT: I was just informed most of her front is on her back. That just makes me even more curious why the change to her chest at all.
Another problem that arises is when she does transform, it has the chance of looking awkward because the breasts would be on both sides of the fuselage. With Seekers, it’s usually vents. Like, check out Slipstream here:
See her chest? See how it works? See how the vents have a proper place? Yeah.
All and all, you listed many reasons why the fans are tired of prominent breasts on females, because some of those are due to sexualization. Blackarachnia was designed after an Asian stripper, and don’t tell me there wasn’t any sexualization involved when they gave Thunderblast not only underboobs, but nipples. And then you see that Legends Elita—she’s not only got underboobs, but something of a buttcrack, and she’s in the Strong Female Character pose.
So when a female character comes along that has a reasonable design and there’s obviously no strong focus on her chest, but then SUDDENLY she has breasts for, again, absolutely NO reason other than to apparently look more conventionally female OR sexual appeal? Yeah, that is a little annoying.
Also, I do agree to some extent on the transphobic comment, but I’m not saying you, as a person, are transphobic. Just I can see where people get that idea from your wording.
I just don’t like the idea that I should feel guilty for being annoyed at the constant boobie debacle. I’d be pretty pissed off if masculine TFs had things obviously representing penises, balls, or nipples. I’ve seen Overlord with the nipple factor, and I chalk that up to the fact his image is based on a Greek figure and thus it kind of gives off the vibe of a greased up Greek warrior. Even then, I think it’s a bit over-the-top.
Completely agree. While there are many things I like about Transformers Animated, it is still not a show I particularly love nor enjoy watching for recreation and its treatment of the two primary female robots within the cast is perhaps my largest factor for this.
As you’ve noted, this is not about saying “Beast Wars Black Arachnia was better!” or, in general “Transformers Character Concept A was better in Transformers Media Installment X!”. That’s not the issue here. The issue is writing female characters as actual characters and being cognoscente of the harmful tropes and hidden messages that can come out of male-centric narratives. Blackarachnia as presented in Transformers Animated, quite frankly, disturbed me by the manner in which she was written and handled.(via draqua)